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August 17[edit]

Incorrect information[edit]

There is a link on your website entitled, "Murder of Cooper Harris". This could more appropriately be titled "Death of...". Although it is public knowledge that Cooper's father was convicted of murder. We, the family and many, many others know that this was a tragic accident. The courts got it wrong.

I have long supported and contributed to Wikipedia, and do not agree that this presumption is appropriate and in keeping with accuracy and truth, should be corrected.

Thank you. Sue M Scott — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:3B5D:2B20:318F:F099:3EDC:FA7C (talk) 00:38, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

WP:PROVEIT. - FlightTime (open channel) 00:42, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
We need more than just you saying the murder conviction is incorrect, we need independent reliable sources discussing that view on their own to mention it in the article- and even that cannot remove the use of the term murder, as he was convicted in court of murder. If he was wrongly convicted, he (or you) should seek legal counsel. 331dot (talk) 01:15, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
I would add that while your donations to the Foundation are appreciated, they have no bearing on Wikipedia content, as if they did, anyone could buy the content they wanted, or blackmail Wikipedia to preserve content. 331dot (talk) 01:18, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Nathan McCall wiki page[edit]

Mr. McCall is listed as a rapist. Mr. McCall did talk about in his book raping a woman but he has never been convicted of any rape. Makes me Wanna Holler is listed twice. One entry is a good short review of the other book. The other refers to his rapist past. Calling him a rapist when he hasn't been convicted subjects you to potential litigation.

Here are the two lines in question.

Nathan McCall (born 1955) is an African-American author and rapist who grew up in the Cavalier Manor section of Portsmouth, Virginia.

In his first book, Makes Me Wanna Holler A chapter titled Trains details his rapist past.

In his first book, Makes Me Wanna Holler,[1] McCall provides a detailed story of his life and the hardships he experienced growing up with racial profiling, class differences and peer pressure.[2][3] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:603:1F7F:B75E:D861:DF57:7F16:2445 (talk) 00:44, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Fixed – This material was added in last week and wasn't caugt then. If you see other such violations of our biographies of living people policies you can usually edit the page yourself and remove it. – Thjarkur (talk) 01:19, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

World Quizzing Championships page - help requested[edit]


My name is Jane Allen, I am the managing director of the International Quizzing Association which runs the annual World Quizzing Championships event. One of the people who has won the competition on numerous occasions, Pat Gibson, plays for England, but this keeps being erroneously changed to 'Ireland'. Pat was born in Ireland, but has lived for around 25 years in Wigan, England. As such, he chooses to represent England and not Ireland, as is his right.

Please can you advise on how to stop whoever it is that keeps changing his nationality to Ireland from doing this? Pat is even a member of the England team in international competitions. He does not represent Ireland.

Many thanks Jane. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:18, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Comment: I see that our article on Pat Gibson describes him as Irish, and says that he "competes as part of the England quiz team". Maproom (talk) 06:52, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
The Irish claim was made by an anon editor from Balbriggan who presumably wanted to claim Pat for Ireland. Please let us know if the false claim reappears. Dbfirs 07:49, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Jane: Very many thanks. I don't know who the anon editor might be, but he/she isn't an organiser of the event. Pat definitely represents England. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:23, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Ctrl+c / Ctrl+x jumping issue[edit]

Hi - when I'm editing content, if I cut or copy text, my cursor always jumps up to the top of the screen, meaning I have to scroll down to find where I was before. This is pretty annoying if I'm just reordering sentences or moving refs around or whatever. It only happens to me when editing Wikipedia - it doesn't seem to be something I've enabled generally on my computer, I can use word or whatever without it happening. Has anyone else experienced this, and can anyone suggest a fix? (Please ping me if you respond, my watchlist is massive) Thanks GirthSummit (blether) 06:33, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Hello Girth Summit. I can’t say I’ve ever experienced this, so I’m guessing it is a problem with your compiter. Maybe try doing Ctrl+c/Ctrl+x on other Wikimedia websites to see if it has and affect there? Regards, Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 09:08, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Willbb234, thanks for the suggestion. I just tried editing my user page on meta, and the problem did not occur - I can copy or cut text, and the cursor stays where I expect it to, at the point where I copied/cut. If I edit my user page (or any other page) on enWiki, even if I'm write down in the categories section, as soon as I copy/cut the cursor jumps to the top of the page.
If I remember correctly, this started happening a few months ago when I installed a bunch of scripts that were recommended to me when I started doing WP:NPP work. I wonder whether this is a known feature/bug of any script. I guess I could uninstall them all, see if it goes away, then reinstall them one by one and see whether I can find which one (or which combination of them) is causing it - I thought I'd ask here though before going through all that. Cheers GirthSummit (blether) 10:28, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Girth Summit, I've been having the same problem for at least several weeks now. It's extremely frustrating. If you figure out which script is causing it, please share. Schazjmd (talk) 12:41, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Schazjmd, I'm glad it's not just me (while simultaneously being sorry that you're experiencing it too, it's a real pain!). I'll do some experimenting later this afternoon, and update here if I can figure it out. GirthSummit (blether) 12:43, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Girth Summit, until you brought it up, I wondered if I'd just misremembered that it had always worked that way and it didn't occur to me to try and troubleshoot it. So, I went through all of my scripts and couldn't fix the problem. Then I went to Preferences and reset to default (ouch) - bingo! No cursor jumping. Now I'll have to go through each setting to identify which one causes the jump. Schazjmd (talk) 13:26, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Schazjmd, ouch indeed! Thanks for letting me know, that saved me some time. I think I've found the preference setting - when I disable 'Enable the editing toolbar', in the 'Editing' tab, it stops happening. That's a bit of a pain though, because you lose access to the 'Cite' tool, which I use all the time. What to do - is this a trip to the Village Pump do you think? GirthSummit (blether) 13:40, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Girth Summit, hmm, I can't repro your experience. I have "Enable the editing toolbar" selected and it isn't happening. I've restored all of my settings, except "Gadgets", so I think the culprit (at least for my browser) is in there. Schazjmd (talk) 13:43, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Schazjmd Hmm. I wonder if it's two things combining to cause the problem. Like, if you have the editing toolbar and something else enabled, it happens, but not if you have one or the other. Is there any way for us to view each other's preferences, to compare what I've got switched on and you've got switched off? That might be easier than going through one setting at a time trying to replicate it. GirthSummit (blether) 13:46, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Girth Summit, I think you're right about two things. I just noticed that while I've been testing, I didn't have syntax highlighter turned on. As soon as I turned it on, the jumping problem came back. So now I have to start again from the beginning to figure out what script or setting is interacting with syntax highlighter to cause the problem. Schazjmd (talk) 13:50, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Schazjmd Update - good think you mentioned the browser there. I generally edit using MS Edge, but I just tried it in Chrome and it isn't happening. Maybe it is something that affects different browsers differently, which might make it more difficult to replicate. I guess I could work around it by just editing in Chrome, but I'm kind of used to the way everything looks in Edge now - Chrome just looks weird to me. GirthSummit (blether) 13:49, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Girth Summit, me too, I've gotten fond of Edge. So our problem is Edge + syntax highlighter + <unknown>… Schazjmd (talk) 13:51, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Or maybe not. I just removed all scripts and reset preferences to default, but as long as I have syntax highlighter activated, it jumps. I guess it's an Edge defect. Schazjmd (talk) 13:54, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Weird. I've never used Syntax Highlighter - I don't have that switched on now, and it's happening. The only way I've found so far to stop it is to lose the Editing Toolbar - which is probably too big a sacrifice to get rid of the jumping cursor. I'll keep tinkering and see whether I can find any other way of getting rid of it. GirthSummit (blether) 13:56, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Girth Summit, that's a pain. And it's weird we have the same problem but different configs. But I've figured out that I can toggle syntax highlighter off while I'm doing copy/cut editing to avoid the jump, so thanks for motivating me to look into this. Sorry that your fix is so unusable! Schazjmd (talk) 14:00, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Schazjmd Never mind, it's kind of interesting tinkering around in preferences! I've found I can fix it by disabling the 2010 editing toolbar, but enabling the 2006 one. Looks kind of retro, but I might be able to get used to it. Otherwise I could just try to get used to Chrome... Cheers GirthSummit (blether) 14:05, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

───────────────────────── @Schazjmd: Your query about two users viewing each others preference settings is intriguing, it would be nice to have a Special page similar to Twinkle's preferences. I use that page to C/P settings between my main account and public and phone accounts, but I'm no developer, so not even sure if such a thing is possible :P - FlightTime (open channel) 14:12, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Can we trust![edit]

I want to know that website "Knowledge @ Wharton" exist really or it is fake. Can I trust on the content provided on that website? I found some important information on that website and want it to add in one of the article. I checked about it on "WP: Reliability of Reference" but I couldn't find, this website name there. Please! anyone tell that this website exist really and can I trust fully on it's content? Thanks. (09:22, 17 August 2019 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk)

223, I see that you have posted a request to Jayron32's talk page. You posted it to the top of the page, where it is quite possible that Jayron32 will never notice it; you should post requests and comments to the bottom of the page, as you have done here. And your request is about a specific article, which you describe as about "Dr. Shamsheer". It would be helpful and polite if you gave a link to the article instead of expecting Jayron32 to search for it, particularly as Wikipedia has several articles about people called Shamsheer. (Maybe you mean Shamsheer Vayalil, but I can't be sure.) Maproom (talk) 10:07, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
@Maproom: Yes it certainly appears to be our perpetual requester of edits in respect of Shamsheer Vayali. See #Please response above for explanation of his 'interest'. Eagleash (talk) 12:17, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Ok! I am trying to edit myself but if something becomes disruptive, for that I'm sorry.

Thank you. ( (talk) 16:14, 17 August 2019 (UTC))

Alan Dershowitz[edit]

I noticed there is nothing in Alan Dershowitz’ biography about his recent legal issues and the page is not editable to “protect” - what exactly? To protect Alan Dershowitz? I have donated to Wikipedia in the past because I thought Wikipedia was a platform for the public and not for private protection of individuals who want to write whatever they want to write about themselves regardless of recent news. Is that no longer the case? Who is allowed to edit Wikipedia? Why is Alan Dershowitz protected? Birgitte Jensen — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:28, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi Birgitte Jensen - protection is usually put on pages that attract significant amounts of vandalism, or (since this is a biography of a living person) possibly it's because a lot of people were adding unsourced controversial material. It's quite lightly protected, and most editors with established accounts can edit it - it's just very new accounts and unregistered users (who are usually the ones who vandalise pages) that can't. I can assure you that this individual has no more (or less) protection than we would give any living person. If there are specific edits you would like to be made to the article, you can put an edit request on its talk page - just makes sure you are clear on what you want to be added, and that you provide at least one reliable source that supports the assertions you want to make - then another editor will look at what you are suggesting and, provided it meets our policies on biographies of living persons, the change will be made. Cheers GirthSummit (blether) 10:35, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Creating an article on wikipedia[edit]

How can one create an article on wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Makokha Thomson Otyola (talkcontribs) 11:45, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

@Makokha Thomson Otyola: I would caution you that successfully creating a new article is probably the hardest task on Wikipedia. It takes much time, effort, and practice. New users who dive right in to creating articles often end up disappointed and with hurt feelings as something they worked hours on (likely without a good understanding of the process) is mercilessly edited and deleted by others. I don't want to see that happen to you. New users are much more successful at creating articles when they first spend time(weeks or even months) editing existing articles in areas that interest them, to get a feel for using Wikipedia, the editing process, and what goes into creating articles. Usually such users start with small edits like spelling fixes, move up to more substantive edits and lastly work their way into creating articles. I would suggest that you pursue such a path. You may also want to use the use the new user tutorial.
However, if you still want to attempt to create an article, you should first read Your First Article. Then, you can use Articles for Creation to create and submit a draft for a review before it is formally placed in the encyclopedia. This way, you get feedback on it beforehand, instead of afterwards when it will be treated more critically. 331dot (talk) 16:47, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Posting a profile[edit]

How do I post a profile on Wikipedia and how can I start a business line of writing and posting other people's profiles on Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ruthrence (talkcontribs) 15:24, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Short answer: you don't. Wikipedia is not social media, articles about people are only included if they are notable in WP's terms. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 15:27, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Also, please sign your posts with four tildes: ~~~~ Martin of Sheffield (talk) 15:28, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
See also PAID and COI. Also remember that, if you write an article (we don't do profiles) about someone, neither you nor they own it - any editor can change the content, provided they do so according to our relevant policies; or indeed any editor may nominate it for deletion if they don't think the subject is notable. I would advise you not to go down this route. GirthSummit (blether) 17:01, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error references no text[edit]

I'm trying to fix the reference error for Zoe Telford's info box. Anyone? Thanks in advance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jack.D.Tipper (talkcontribs) 16:50, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

I see that you've fixed it. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:36, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Jack.D.Tipper To easily fix or expand bare references, I like to use this reFill tool from wmflabs. Regards, Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 18:12, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

August 18[edit]

Western Heights College[edit]

I have added a second web site in the information box on this page - but it is all wrong. Please fix if you can Thanks (talk) 01:15, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

The website field in the infobox is for the primary website of the institution only, so I have removed the second one you tried to add. MB 02:26, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

I can not edit properly on this device. please note that the word "severed" in the Community section of this page should read "severe". Thanks for correcting this error. (talk) 06:29, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

 Done typo fix. Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 06:40, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Commons Crop[edit]

Does anyone know the steps I would take to uploading a crop of an original work belonging to another user (previously uploaded on the Commons) to a different destination?
To give context, there is an image of two musicians titled by only one of them. I'm only trying to have a crop of the one for a BLP I'm working on. HeyitsBen(talk) 07:11, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

@HeyitsBen: The image in question is released under a license that allows derivative works, as long as they are released under the same license. You might want to ask at the commons help desk, where users will be more equipped to assist you with the practicalities of actually doing it though ~~ OxonAlex - talk 07:48, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
The Commons:CropTool makes this task easy. – Thjarkur (talk) 14:54, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Help:Pictures#Vertical alignment[edit]

The above section states: "When a plain picture appears in text, it is aligned so that its vertical middle is roughly where the center of a lower-case "x" would be; if the image is larger than the line is tall, it sticks out both above and below." — However, the example given there uses upper-case Xs at the beginning and the end: X[[File:Flag of Hungary vertical.svg|baseline|8px|Vertical version of horizontal tricolor flag (red, white, green)]]X — How come?--Hildeoc (talk) 14:42, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

The default position is center of a lower-case x, the example given shows how to change that by using the baseline option. Maybe adding a line break in that documentation would make it more clear. – Thjarkur (talk) 14:48, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
I've changed the upper case X to lower case. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:50, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
Thank you both very much indeed! Best wishes--Hildeoc (talk) 14:53, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Article submission Joseph Harriss[edit]

My submission of an article entitled "Joseph Harriss" has been bogged down for months because a certain Lopifalko says it does not cite reliable, independent sources for comments on my four published books. On the contrary, I cite comments from the likes of The New York Times, Scientific American, Los Angeles Times, etc. I seem to sense that Lopifalko is hostile to this article, for reasons unknown. Can anyone resolve this, please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wordcobbler (talkcontribs) 15:55, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Seems to me that Lopifalko has been very helpful and has been guiding you in how to improve the article. Most of the cited sources don't seem to be about Harriss and there are multiple unsourced statements. We strongly encourage you not to write an autobiography, most people find it too difficult to remain neutral about things they're close to. – Thjarkur (talk) 16:05, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
@Wordcobbler: It looks to me like Lopifalko is genuinely trying to help you. If you somehow pushed your draft into Wikipedia in its present state, it would be deleted, because there are appear to be no references that support a claim of notability. You need more than one reference, each of which meet all of the following criteria: 1) a reliable source, 2) the article is substantially about Hariss (not a passing mention in an article about something else, not a piece on another subject written by Hariss) 2) independent of the subject (is not written by Hariss or or someone connected to Hariss). You are free to use additional reliable sources for other information in the article, but those do not count toward notability. The notability criteria for an author are slightly more nuanced: see WP:NAUTHOR. If you feel that you may meet those criteria, please discuss why you think so. The talk page of your draft is probably a good place for such a discussion. -Arch dude (talk) 21:05, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Edit got stuck, but seems to have saved, is that normal?[edit]

I was trying to edit the Labrador Retriever article, and took a long time to edit it, in part because I looked checked some references looking for a particular statement. In part because I briefly walked away from the computer, but stayed in the same room. While editing the article, I used the preview and view changes buttons several times. Finally, I clicked publish changes... and nothing happened. I tried again. Nothing. I tried again. A few seconds of waiting. Then nothing. Then I tried to preview, that worked. Tried to save, didn't work. Then I tried to view the changes, and it said there were none. Then I opened the article's history page in another tab. And found the edit I'd just made. this edit. Is this normal? It hasn't happened to me before. Also, am I asking in the right place? – Pretended leer {talk} 19:58, 18 August 2019 (UTC) By the way, it also happened while saving the question. But then I didn't click save more than once, because I realized maybe it had been saved, and then I checked. – Pretended leer {talk} 20:10, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Your request reached the server and was saved, but the server's response got stuck somewhere on the way back. It happens occasionally to me as well. – Thjarkur (talk) 20:18, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply! I guess I'll just ignore it. – Pretended leer {talk} 20:24, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

To place very important information[edit]

To: Wikipedia August 18, 2019 Please, provide information about rules and detail description about submission of very important information for people on your website Wikipedia and person who is responsible to make a decision and who can answer question. Thank you very much in advance. Neweralife (talk) 20:17, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Hello Neweralife, see for example What is Wikipedia. All of us (including you) work together trying to make sure our information is factual. If you have any general questions you can post them here, if you have comments about the content of an article you can post them on the article's talk page. – Thjarkur (talk) 20:22, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Why my information about techno has not been accepted[edit]

I have gathered information about a reputed college in Lucknow, which I have found relevant to provide information across our nation to know about but i can see that my published information has been rejected and I dont have any clue why this information has not been accepted. I have been trying to provide more information about the different educational institutions in India. However, i would request you please guide me stepwise so that i can provide useful information to Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamanauthor19 (talkcontribs) 20:25, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Iamanauthor19, the comment at the top of your draft explains what needs to be done. You need to show that the subject has gotten significant coverage (not just passing mentions) in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. After you have added these citations in, you can click the blue button "Resubmit". – Thjarkur (talk) 20:30, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

"not constructive" contributions[edit]

Hi, just received message from CLCStudent, that my contributions to BLP

CLCSstudent deleted all of mine contributions, stated they are "not constructive" and instructed me to ask you for additional questions.

Can you, please, explain me what was the problem with my contributions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pblagojevic (talkcontribs) 22:48, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

@Pblagojevic: Edit warring is never the right course. Be careful. - FlightTime (open channel) 23:12, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
@Pblagojevic: Please read WP:BLP. We are supposed to use references for pretty much everything on Wikipedia, but we are required to be especially rigorous about this for statements about living persons. -Arch dude (talk) 23:59, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
The content added to Milan Jovanović (strongman) was referenced – though it was referenced by direct external links rather then by correctly formatted references. Pblagojevic, please read Help:Referencing_for_beginners. Maproom (talk) 06:43, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
By amazing coincidence, everything added to Milan Jovanović (strongman) had the effect of attacking the person by associating them with various negative activities. Not everything published is suitable for inclusion in a WP:BLP article and text might be WP:UNDUE. At any rate, a new editor who starts contributing by adding negativity to an article about a living person will find their edits reverted. Johnuniq (talk) 07:04, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

August 19[edit]

Publishing on Wikipedia[edit]

Hi I have a draft in Sandbox and dont know how to take the next step towards publishing it on Wikipedia, the publish button is greyed out cheers KST — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kramshramtit (talkcontribs) 01:08, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

@Kramshramtit: Just looked at the sandbox draft and the submit button appears normal to me. However, please do not submit the draft as it is completely without references and will be rejected upon review. Please see WP:BLP for more about biographical articles and WP:REFB for a guide to adding references. WP:CITET lists templates to use when adding sources. Please also review the notability guidelines. Some useful links will be left at your talk page. (Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: ~~~~.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 02:22, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
@Kramshramtit: Furthe

r, if this is an autobiography, this is strongly discouraged. Please see WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY for more information. Eagleash (talk) 02:25, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

@Kramshramtit: Please also see WP:NARTIST and Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. -Arch dude (talk) 02:58, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Is it ever acceptable to use an ellipsis outside of a quote?[edit]

Please let me know; I found a page where this was the case and changed it to a comma.--Thylacine24 (talk) 01:42, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Ummm ... yes, and also when you peter out at the end of ... [1]
... but you were correct to change it within the Wikipedia article. The usage has an air of informality that is not appropriate in an encyclopaedia article, but is fine for a talk page or the Help desk. Dbfirs 06:44, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for telling me. Sorry if this was an irresponsible question to ask here, as is sometimes the case with the questions I ask on the Help desk.--Thylacine24 (talk) 12:07, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Continuous editing conflict[edit]

I've been an editor for a few years without a problem ever editing. For the last couple of months, every time I try to publish an edit I receive a conflict for simultaneous editing, and the page is returned to its original status. However, looking at the editing history one can see that the last two comments are mine, the last one is like the original page and the one before is like what I wanted to change. Following is the last example I suspect some setting has changed in my profile that shows me editing from two different devices, and from here the conflict. What shall I look or change to solve this problem?Gciriani (talk) 02:11, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

I have a very similar problem. I have been editing Wikipedia since 2005 without technical problems. However, for the last several weeks, when I push the Publish Changes button, the edit conflict page pops up. When I look at the article's history, I see that my edit was saved. This happens most of the time, but not all the time. As best I can tell, the false edit conflict page pops up when I save immediately after making a change in the article. If I edit, then press the Preview button, then press Publish Changes (without making another edit), I get the edit saved success message. I edit Wikipedia using Google Chrome (up-to-date) running under Win 10 Pro (also up-to-date).—Finell 04:49, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

I occasionally get the same problem, but it's when I click "Publish changes" twice (on a slow internet connection). Dbfirs 06:38, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
@Gciriani: I also get this very, very occasionally, too. I hit Publish Changes, get an edit conflict message, only to find the edit I was trying to make had just been made by me. It happens sufficiently rarely that I can't even remember if it occurs on my iPhone with Safari, or on my laptop with Chrome, or both. What I do know is that I do have a Beta Gadget enable for "Two column edit conflict". The first thing I would do is turn this off, and then maybe restore all Special:Preferences to the default settings in all sections via the big red link at the bottom of that page. I notice you also managed to post this question twice too - once here, and once at the Teahouse. May I politely remind you that it wastes volunteer effort and causes some irritation when someone posts the identical question in two help fora at once? In future, please wait at least 24 hrs before seeking input elsewhere if your question isn't answered. Many thanks, Nick Moyes (talk) 06:57, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
I assumed that Gciriani had got an edit conflict and not realised that the question had actually been posted, so re-posted as an IP. If the problem occurs only when logged in, then it must be some setting, as you suggest. Dbfirs 07:02, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
This problem has been reported previously. It happens pretty frequently for me (working on a laptop, using Chrome). I've checked that it still happens if the "Two column edit conflict" gadget is turned off. Others have suggested that it is when the publish button is pressed twice, but I do not believe that this is the case. - David Biddulph (talk) 07:13, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
I note a question just above here relates to server lag, which might be relevant. Nick Moyes (talk) 07:26, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Family of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge[edit]

In the further reading section with the magazine "Majesty' - I added in this website - It is all wrong. Please fix Thanks Srbernadette (talk) 03:03, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Fixed You put 'url:=' instead of 'url='. Eagleash (talk) 03:09, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Talk Page and User Name[edit]

I've noticed that my user name is highlighted in red "Wikiwicker" and there seems to be some question as to whether I really exist or not. I don't have a "user page" so does that mean my user name will be removed? Thanks, Ray Murray "Wikiwicker" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiwicker (talkcontribs) 05:31, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

@Wikiwicker: As the username in signutures etc links to the user page, if you don't have a user page it will show as a red link, as with any link to a non existant page. There is no requirement to have a user page, and you definitely exist. If it bothers you, there's ways to change signature colour - see Wikipedia:Signature tutorial ~~ OxonAlex - talk 06:29, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
Why not just write a sentence, or the word "Welcome" on your user page? ... or redirect it to your talk page? Dbfirs 06:41, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Where to ask for audio file review?[edit]

Hello, I would like to request review of an audio clip to see if it is okay for use in Wikipedia. Is there a good place I can ask about this? I have made several requests and posts on Wikipedia:Media_copyright_questions, as well as asking a Wikipedia administrator, as well as two requested peer reviews. Unfortunately I haven't been able to interest anyone in taking a look. What should I try next?

I have been working on The Phenomenauts. I am trying to raise it for eventual sumission for GA status. I originally uploaded four audio clips, based on my understanding of Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Music_samples. These were deleted for being non-free content, which is true; they were. I have done a lot of reading of Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Music_samples, WP:NFC, and and WP:NFCC to better understand Wikipedia norms and how to handle this. I then created a post on the article Talk page outlining a case for why I believe inclusion of a single, short audio clip would be appropriate.

The other events then were:

The original administrator appears to be quite busy, and I don't want to bother them if they don't have time to discuss it. But I would love some feedback on whether my edits are on the right track, and this is an appropriate case/argument for including a single audio clip.

What is the best next step to request someone taking a look? Thanks for your time. --Culix (talk) 05:45, 19 August 2019 (UTC)


Adult of an undescribed Iphierga species Psychidae Iphierga Iphierga chrysophaes Turner, 1917 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Valeriefarias (talkcontribs) 09:07, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Hello, welcome to Wikipedia. If there is a question you would like to ask, please do so. Please sign your posts by typing four tildes (~~~~) or clicking the signature button above the edit box which looks like this: Button sig.png, but do not sign in articles. Regards, Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 09:27, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
@Valeriefarias: The scientific name, Iphierga chrysophaes, has definitely been validly published see here. However there is no page yet for this taxon (nor indeed the genus) on Wikipedia. You would be welcome to create one, and one simple way is to copy and modify the wikitext of a closely related moth species. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 13:17, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Help Publishing a Translation[edit]


It seems I can't publish an English from Danish translation I made for 'Abelstedt' (

How will this translation be able to be published?

Best regards, Oliver — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ojcapital (talkcontribs) 10:40, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

In this edit I have added a template to give you a button to submit the draft for review, & also removed your draft from article categories (see WP:DRAFTNOCAT). If you translated from a Danish Wikipedia article you need to provide attribution, as required by WP:TFOLWP. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:49, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
I now see that you did provide an attribution in the edit summary, but you may wish to supplement it in the talk page as suggested. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:53, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
User:Ojcapital, I hope you don't mind that I have tweaked the grammar a bit. TSventon (talk) 11:58, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
Thanks a lot! - Ojcapital (talk) 14:47, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
@Ojcapital: I see that all your edits on English and Danish Wikipedia relate to Abelstedt. Please can you confirm if you have a conflict of interest (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest) and if you have been paid to edit the articles (see Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure). TSventon (talk) 12:14, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
@TSventon: I can confirm that neither is the case. I recently created my account and this was my first contribution. - Ojcapital (talk) 14:47, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
You should't have submitted the draft for review until you'd sorted out the multiple errors in the referencing. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:15, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for the notice David. However, I was quite sure that these referencing errors were not there until the draft got moved. It might have been a miss. - Ojcapital (talk) 14:47, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

جاكارو Wahoo[edit]

I can't linked both pages together: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamwi2000 (talkcontribs) 11:07, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

 Done, you can link together by clicking on "Add links" under the "Languages" section in the sidebar. – Thjarkur (talk) 12:11, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

How to correct a link to another language wikipedia[edit]

Hello friends. The English article is Blaubeuren Abbey. The German article is Kloster Blaubeuren. But if you click on "Deutsch" in the Languages sidebar of Blaubeuren Abbey, the link is going to Blaubeuren. How do I make it go to the correct place? Thank you. (talk) 14:57, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Fixed, an interwiki link had been placed on the English Wikipedia article, now it is through Wikidata. – Thjarkur (talk) 15:09, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
Thank you. Can you explain how you did it so I can fix it myself another time? (talk) 15:19, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
This table is a great help Help:Interwiki linking#Project titles and shortcuts - FlightTime (open channel) 15:29, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
The article had [[de:Blaubeuren]] at the bottom, that is the old way of connecting together articles in different languages. Now we try to keep everything linked together on Wikidata, you can get to it by clicking "Add links" under the language sidebar. The old way can still be used to overwrite the Wikidata connection or to link to a related topic if the different languages don't have quite the same scope. – Thjarkur (talk) 15:38, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
Terrific to know, thank you both! (talk) 15:42, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Archived undone request[edit]

ClueBot III has archived request not yet completed on Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Illustration workshop.

The undone request will be completed anyway or it is necessary to request again? -- (talk) 16:59, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Moved from Misc reference desk ~~ OxonAlex - talk 16:06, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

It's unlikely for someone to be searching the archives looking of uncompleted requests. So you can unarchive the request in cases like this. – Ammarpad (talk) 17:37, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks button[edit]

I would like to undo my thanks. I read WP:THANKS but I couldn't find anything that says how to do it. Unless I missed it on that page, can you show me how to do that and ping me when you answer? Interstellarity (talk) 16:24, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

I don't think a thanks can be undone. - FlightTime (open channel) 16:25, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
@FlightTime: I don't quite understand your answer. Could you rephrase it for me and ping me when you do that please? Interstellarity (talk) 16:31, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
@Interstellarity: - FlightTime (open channel) 16:35, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
@FlightTime: Thanks for the quick response. Interstellarity (talk) 16:37, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Template:Comics TPB table[edit]

How come in transclusions such as at Smallville, there is a large whitespace rendered above the table footnotes (in the given instance beginning with "The full title [...]")? How can that be fixed?--Hildeoc (talk) 16:45, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

I've removed the spacing below each table. Does it look OK now? – Ammarpad (talk) 17:33, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Editing articles.[edit]

Hello. Recently I made a change in one of articles in Wikipedia. After about 90 minutes a received a massage from a user of Wikipedia in which he told me that he had deleted what I typed because I didn’t include a reliable source. I am sure that information I provided is right, and, in my opinion, there is a reason to include that information to that article and I don’t think it is necessary to include a reliable source every time. So, I just want you to answer a question for me. If I had created completely new article it would not have been necessary to get a permission from somebody (maybe from an article’s author) to make some changes in this article in the future? By the way, if an author wrote that article himself, he would just have to understand basic things in the topic, since a source isn’t needed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Petro Sapriianchuk (talkcontribs) 20:12, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

@Petro Sapriianchuk: Information in Wikipedia must be sourced to a reliable source. This is so readers can verify the information if they desire. Verifiability is an important principle of Wikipedia. That you believe the information to be correct is irrelevant; we need to know where it came from. You don't need permission to create an article or make an edit, but if challenged on it, it is up to you to discuss the matter and justify what it is that you want to do, see WP:BRD for more information. 331dot (talk) 20:16, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
@Petro Sapriianchuk: once an article exists, it no longer has "an author". The person who created the article has no more rights or responsibilities for the article than does anyone else. This also true for any edit by any editor: we all have the same right and responsibilities, except for edits who are WP:PAID or have a WP:COI with respect to the article: those editors have fewer rights than the rest of us. -Arch dude (talk) 20:30, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Article Henry Oberlander not appearing in Google search?[edit]

Hi, Henry Oberlander went live over one month ago but is not showing as any hit on Google search. Does anyone know how this works and how long it would take to appear? There are under 3000 hits for this major personality, on Google, so the article does not exactly have a lot of competition. Any thoughts welcome. Many thanks Anna (talk) 22:00, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

It still has noindex as a new article. See Wikipedia:Controlling search engine indexing#Indexing of articles ("mainspace"). PrimeHunter (talk) 00:06, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. Can I ask for it to be indexed? Anna (talk) 00:36, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

August 20[edit]

Request to Edit Article[edit]


I am one of the administrators of Holy Angels' College (Bulacan), and I would like to seek help in editing the Heading for, it should be named as Holy Angels' College (Bulacan). The school is presently known by this name since it was re-incorporated in 2001.

Thank you

Jeffrey Ian G. Esperanza System Administrator Holy Angels' College (Bulacan) Inc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Esperanzaji (talkcontribs) 01:01, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

@Esperanzaji: There have been major changes to the article in the last few hours made by an anonymous editor. The changes were unsourced and at least partly unencyclopedic and may well be removed or greatly reduced. If this was you, please do not do this. Please read both WP:COI and WP:PAID (this is mandatory) and make the necessary disclosures. Please do not edit the article directly but make edit requests via the article talk page. (Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: ~~~~.) Eagleash (talk) 02:52, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Correct a locked article[edit]

Articles are locked to “prevent vandalism” yet they are factually incorrect. How can someone request to get these articles corrected? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:04, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Via edit requests - FlightTime (open channel) 03:09, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
(edit conflict) (x2) You can request edits via the article talk page. To do this you use a template which varies depending on the level of protection. Without knowing the name of the page you are asking about, you use one of: Template:Edit extended-protected, Template:Edit template-protected or Template:Edit fully-protected. See those pages for full instructions. It is vital that you provide clear details of the change you wish to see in the form, change 'X' (current content) to 'Y' (your proposed changes) and that you provide sources to corroborate. (Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: ~~~~.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 03:19, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Request correction on article titled-“Facism”[edit]

Wikipedia article on facism cites “radical right-wing authoritarian....” in the first sentence. However, websters dictionary has the correct definition of facism-“severe social and economic regiment and also forcible suppression of opposition.” The defintion of facism should be exactly as cited in websters dictionary and should not incorrectly label facism as right wing. when those two traits of economic regiment and suppression of opposition are characteristics of the left-wing. It is innacurate and clearly politically biased to label facism “right-wing”. It is exclusively of the left. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:17, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

This has been extensively discussed in the past. See the article talk page for more information. Eagleash (talk) 03:21, 20 August 2019 (UTC)